Podcast Title: The Suze Maclaine Pont Show
Episode Title: Safety & Trauma
Air Date: June 16, 2025
Hosts: Suze Maclaine Pont & Jakko Smit
Length: 55 minutes


Episode Summary:

In this intimate, unscripted episode, Suze and her husband Jakko explore the subtle, sacred truth of safety—not as something we find outside ourselves, but something we slowly remember within. Together, they unpack the difference between mental control and nervous system safety, share personal stories of trauma, avoidance, and connection, and reflect on how burnout, busyness, and guilt mask our deep longing to simply be.

Whether you’re a therapist, doctor, coach, or a deeply feeling human, this episode will help you understand why no circumstance can offer true safety—and why being present with what is might just be the beginning of coming home.


In This Episode, You’ll Hear:

  • Why control isn’t the same as safety—and often blocks it

  • The surprising truth about stillness, silence, and presence

  • How trauma shapes our need to “do” or “connect” to avoid feeling

  • What happens when we pause long enough to feel the old unsafety

  • A raw story of breaking down by the side of the road—and staying deeply calm

  • How to spot when your clients are unconsciously regulating you

  • The real meaning of “being safe” in a world that constantly shifts


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Call to Action (for end of shownotes):

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