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“The point of life isn’t to get it right — it’s to be here for it. Even when it’s messy, even when it’s hard, even when you don’t know how.” — Suze Maclaine Pont
In this episode of The Suze Maclaine Pont Show, Suze and her husband Jaco explore a pattern most of us know too well — the constant push to get things done so we can finally rest. What if that drive is actually what keeps us from peace?
Through the story of Jacob wrestling with God, Suze reveals how easily we miss the point of life when we rush to fix, prove, and perform instead of being present. Together, they dive into what it means to meet life as it is — to stay curious in the face of pressure, to welcome both joy and sorrow, and to rediscover faith as something embodied, not conceptual.
This is a conversation about coming home — to your body, to your faith, and to the sacred simplicity of being alive.
- Listen if you’re feeling caught between doing and being, striving and surrendering.
- Stay until the end for Suze’s story of how curiosity became her way of bringing God into everyday life.
Highlights:
- The pressure to finish, fix, or get to the end — and why it’s an illusion.
- What the story of Jacob wrestling with God can teach us about presence.
- How external “judgment figures” like Sinterklaas shape our relationship to God.
- Embodiment, curiosity, and allowing both joy and pain as part of the same flow.
- The difference between faith as a concept and faith as a lived experience.
- Suze’s “five-minute vacations” — learning to invite God into every moment.