Episode Title: Finding God in Chaos
Podcast: Sacred Conversations — From Survival to Soul in Everyday Life
Hosts: Suze Maclaine Pont & Jakko Smit
Length: 40 minutes


✨ Episode Description

In this sacred conversation, Suze and Jakko explore what it means to find God not in perfection or stillness — but in chaos. In the mess. In the broken pieces. This is not about bypassing trauma, but learning to be with it — to meet the unbearable with presence, and discover a deeper thread that holds.

We talk about:

  • The spiritual lie of “needing to be calm” to be connected

  • How trauma disconnects us from the divine — and how we can return

  • Why chaos is often a doorway to grace

  • Letting the nervous system and soul walk together

  • An invitation into Sacred Summer School — a space to root back into your essence